Vintage Cube is Back! 🍍 Vintage Cube Draft #195
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I like your videos a lot, but i'm getting bored with these drafts... You always starts with something exciting and end up in mono white/red or boros :(
Lucas Francisco
28 天 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG lol
Caleb Gannon MTG
29 天 前
that's usually the problem :p. I used to have people complain about me always drafting storm, but the storm videos are just what did well in the youtube recommended. Now its the white videos which do well in recommended, so now I "always draft white" haha
Lucas Francisco
29 天 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG i guess it was an unluck sequency of videos for me aushuaush. Big fan!!
Caleb Gannon MTG
29 天 前
I stop drafting to win at draft #203, and #200 was a pretty sick non-white deck too. The first two drafts of this season were boros though
1:55 '' its the only dwarf in the set '' LITERALLY MUTAVAULT next to it
Couldn't you have drawn that first game??? During upkeep char them??
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
they are at 12, and I have 8 points of burn and they take 2 from vortex, they would be at 2 life
About lands/mana in mtg. I have heard someone suggest all lands should have cycling, but i think that would change the game too much. But what about a rule where you can exile 3 lands (or 2) from your hand to draw a card? This mitigates the times where you are super flooded, but isn't something you would do during every game?
I'm fairly new to cubes and had a question. Is the whole cube always represented in a pod draft? Or some cards can't appear?
John Coolidge
个月 前
Vintage cube has 540 cards. You'll never see them all in a pod of 8.
"Daily vintage cube" you sir, are an absolute legend.
i woulda ended up in UW Opposition lol
Using the artwork for the 7/7 green elemental created by Voice of the Woods as Young Pyromancer tokens. Interesting choice MTGO.
Dude, read Cosima, she is insane in any format with fetches. Hard to kill card draw engine and finisher. Also doubles as a non-flying looter scooter.
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
Maybe in non-vintage formats. She's incredibly slow in vintage cube, and fetches are hard to get reliably
It's annoying to see that many new cards being forced into the cube... Hopefully they'll get rid of some.
Wow that thumbnail threw me off so hard lol
With your tutelage I’m 2 trophies for 2 drafts in this version of the cube :) both drafts I had Thalia, Wasteland, and mana tithe in my deck.
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
sounds like you have learned well! nice job!
What would it take for drafting a blue deck in this draft? U got 5 good blue cards and the assumption is blue will be openish in pack 3 (and it was) since you cut it early. Not arguing that u did anything wrong, just interested in the thought process.
jonathan lohaller
个月 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG Well the reasoning is that blue is just better than the other colors, LSV said blue can support many drafters at a table and the power level is so high that it will (or should) never be open. I often see u dropping blue, would it be better to just not pick blue cards at all, or do u find that it is as open from time to time as the other colors can be?
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
It would just take blue being more open than white or red. Seventh pick swords to plowshares was a huge signal that I should be in white (I feel like that card is better than counterspell many times). Why only get blue cards in one pack when I can get red white cards from two remaining packs
Rad, I’ve missed cube :) I love an aggro deck too
daily vintage cube uploads!
the kaldheim cards are questionable. At least a few are playable.
"Daily Vintage Cube" oh no I'm going to spend so much time on this channel
Ouh yeaaaah
Hell yeah
I'm the happiest person in world, lov your Vintage Cube videos
manuel lheureux
个月 前
I think Birgu would have been really good for the artifact side. Card draw in boros is broken
I love the trophy streaks. It makes me avoid the comment section until after the video to try and stay in suspense.
If you had p1p1 Fractured Identity over mana drain, do you think you would have ended up with a different deck?
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I probably would have ended up more UW control is my guess. I would have taken the gideon like p2 or p3
Generally, when I can't decide between two cards, I just take the mana drain. Well said. Me too.
When you said you will be posting vintage cube daily my heart fluttered.
mutavault is a dwarf, caleb. smh.
Caleb has certainly more familiarity to cube and vintage than I do, but I really think he's underestimating a lot of the kaldheim cards
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I think most of the cards would be pretty decent in legacy or modern cube. The problem with showdown is that its a top end card that doesn't impact the board. I've stopped playing armageddon in most of my weenie decks even because I think 4 mana is often too much lol. I think it is decent (I was willing to play it in this deck) but ajani is a high bar since he was one of my favorite planeswalkers. Cosima's backside seems ok, but flying is what makes the copter good and there aren't too many blue decks that play the copter (mostly just UW I think?). Hitting free lands does seem nice, but I don't see myself putting this card in any of my vintage decks.
BassBaseAce
个月 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG I think a lot of that also stems from the newness of the cards and not having enough experience to really evaluate how they play. Ajani in a vacuum is stronger but I think in a more dedicated aggro deck (2-3 four drops and zero 5+ drops) softs (showdown of the skalds) can definitely pull some work, but maybe legacy would be a slightly better format for the new cards? Also i wonder if the backside of cosima might be better than you think, though I agree on the front half
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I think some of them are probably better than I initially gave them credit for. Magda has my vote for being the one I was the most wrong about currently. I don't mind the boros card, its worse than Ajani by far but at least interesting/different. I still think cosima is quite awful in this format though
Passing the steam vents could not possibly be right
Lamp Boi
个月 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG I must admit, I have a huuuge bias towards izzet decks so it’s possible my desire to see sweet izzet goodness blinds me a bit to the value of non izzet cards.
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
swords to plowshares is a really really good card. Plus it signaled that white is open, which if true would mean I don't even want steam vents
There was literally a second Dwarf next to Magda in the same pack... In Mutavault.. LUL
I quit watching after you gave up on the sweet looking U/R deck for boros yet again. I have no idea how good your final deck was or if you managed a trophy. Point is, I've seen you draft WW, mono red, and all other permutations of aggro and I know you do it well. I was excited for something different (seeing drain as the thumbnail) but you went straight back to your bread and butter. Unfortunately you've lost my interest.
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I'm sorry to hear that, but I'm imagining this is more of a factor of the youtube algorithm than anything. My last vintage cube videos in order were WUBR nonsense, UW midrange, Naya Dragons, black red birthing pod and artifact storm. I don't know how much more diverse you can want than that.
So glad vintage cube is back because I love watching your vintage cube vids!
I'm looking forward to seeing mono-white with that new 1 drop addition
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
the 1 drop seems nice! definitely capable of building pressure on its own
There are 3 certainties in life. Death, taxes and caleb moving into white
Paul Hibbert
个月 前
For sure man! Couldn't agree more. Swords should never go that late
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I'm just trying to get people to finally draft the color so other things can be open lol. I'm also getting tired of white always being the open lane. Swords to plowshares has no business going 7th pick
It doesn't seem like you were cut out of blue as much as, there just wasn't much blue in the packs.
Man I'm tired of seeing white 😔
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I haven't drafted white in a while? lol
"If they do x I literally scream" Well I did after Glorybringer going to jsus since I was on that burn game one, haha Got kinda upset since it was the first game of VC in a while and knew I would be in a vid
Saw the glorybringer and knew what that meant. Glad to see the streak continue
I absolutely love the omenkeel. It's also great for milling in addition to drawing cards.
Thumbnail clickbait
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
its no problem haha, just know going forward that the thumbnail may or may not be related to my deck. But if the thumbnail and title suggest something then its probably what my deck is
Zachary Reed
个月 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG Caleb. I'm a fan of your content - please don't let my comment dissuade you. In this instance, yes you did throw me for a loop jumping out a blue (I think prematurely). Regardless, you continue to draft; I will continue to watch. Thanks!
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I can never win lol. Sometimes people complain about my thumbnails spoiling the video and sometimes people complain that the thumbnail doesn't spoil the video. This one literally is as close to a middle ground that can exist and I still get complaints lol
Yeah I've played the boat. the power isn't obvious, but in the right deck it's great. It's either a 3/3 that dodges sorcery speed removal that more or less draws you a card when it connects. I wouldn't say it's a card I'd be happy picking early, because it fits a weird fringe. It definitely deserves a spot in cube more than Thada Adel though
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
this I can agree with (it being better than thada adel), there are just so many other cards I would like instead.... mystic confluence :(
Stuff like how your deck ended up is why I like fractured identity over mana drain. Fractured identity can be played in most white or blue decks, while mana drain needs heavy blue. And blue can often be overdrafted in vintage cube, leading modt of my blue decks to be blue splashes that don’t want UU cards.
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
yeah but mana drain is disgusting when it does work lol. Counter a 4 drop, untap and cast ugin seems good.
goldspan is crazy it’s basically a 3 mana 4/4 flying haste
Just think how much better this deck would be if Ajani Vengeant was in it instead of the saga.
0:17 The MTG side of me heard I love taiga.... the other brain side heard I love tyga.... Part of me wants it to be the second option
Only caleb would ditch that start to go boros lol
Cube is back. All is right in the world again
cnboth.info/dron/sh-p-n/doJpicSlgpWS1II.html I'm curious why you didn't play mutavault here
How many ppl are disciplined enough to ditch U? (Mana drain/snap/dak) like wow. That's why u stay winning
Love the vintage cube vids
I see a caleb gannon video i click
"But I gotta draw something" - Caleb Gannon just before he draws a land. Every time just before he draws a land.
Excellent games. I probably would have stayed UR...lots of good blue cards and UR fixing came your way. But...lots of fun watching you trophy with aggro. Aggro takes a lot of skill to consistently win with, especially in mirrors.
"Generally, when I can't decide between two cards I take the Mana Drain." -Caleb "Always Had It" Gannon, 2021
That was dirty
i understand wanting to add cards from your new set into vintage cube, but the ones they chose...
22:48 Why not just cast Lyra and win on the spot??
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I could lose to like conscripts or something, I don't really know lol
You drastically undervalued Felidar Retreat Caleb.
Thompson Noble-Kelly
个月 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG it's very rarely optimal to make 2/2 creatures with it. Early in that draft, when you had the option to pick it up, you were still fairly open and starting to lean a bit more into white. It's best in go wide strategies and when it can be played ahead of the curve, so vintage cube can be perfect for that. The second ability of pumping your team can mean the difference between one or more attacks before killing your opponent. I love your videos, and didn't mean for this to come off as a critique of your decisions at all though. In a format with fetches and other ways to trigger landfall (you picked up land tax lol) putting +1/+1 counters on your team can mean that you can race unfair decks. If you have 3 2/2 creatures and hit land drops before attacks on 3 subsequent turns you're now dealing 27 damage instead of 18. It can drastically speed up aggro kills.
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I don't think so. Even if you play it and three more lands (7 total lands), 4 mana for 3 2/2's is only a medium rate. And many vintage cube games don't last long enough to get up to 7 lands. In a land heavy deck with prime time fastbond and stuff I could see it but I think its pretty narrow.
Nice
I’m a horrible drafter so I have no clue if it was right or wrong, but man it hurt my soul watching Legion’s Landing beat a freakin Hazoret lol
He tricked me! First pick mana drain and then down the hole into Boros 😭
Kryptnyt
个月 前
You've got to pay the troll toll if you want to get into the Boros hole
Hooray for Caleb Vintage cube!
Yes! I love this cube!
This video would have made my day if already was not having a good day.
Turned it off at off color 1 for 1 creature removal over an on color dual land you had a fetch for. Didnt make it out of pack 1. Crash draft incoming.
WordSonFoRealz
个月 前
@Patrick i got to justifying a 5 mana, double white plansewalker that effects combat while typing the original reply. Maybe ge opens lotus into recall after that. Still a no from me dawg
Patrick
个月 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG Yeah, I figured that. Swords was the better pick by far!
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
I think this person is also talking about when I took swords to plowshares (the best removal spell ever printed) over fixing for a color combination that wasn't open
Patrick
个月 前
Yeah you're missing out on an excellent draft. Caleb moved into the most open lane and picked up some solid stuff. Your loss!
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
that's your loss lol
38:07
yay vintage cube I hope they added hullbreacher
I don't mabye it's not good enough for vintage cube, but I think Cosima it's a good card she sits in exile for a couple of turns and then come back refill your hand and present a good body to pressure, it's for more grindy matches and controlly deck
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
a good way to think about it is a 3 mana ancestral vision that requires landfall to remove time counters
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welcome back
Daily vintage cube videos are on of the best things that happened in 2021
cosima is good because its a (very) late game draw X that is very hard to interact with. usually it comes back as a huge creature too, which is nice
John Coolidge
个月 前
Remember, lots of cards get added because they're new, not because they're good or round out an archetype
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
its essentially ancestral vision for 3 mana that requires landfall to remove time counters. I'm not a fan
isaak ward
个月 前
Yeah i think id just rather have a stroke of genius in this tho or any big card draw spell because top decking this guy with no cards in hand is abysmal
doug brown
个月 前
It’s glacially slow, but as is this cube, so go for it and hope you don’t get luck sacked with power
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Quinton Kent
个月 前
Finally! Time spiral remastered looks great
pineapple gang lets go :pineapple:
I felt the same way about Cosima until someone played the vehicle half of it. It felt like I was facing down a Smugglers Copter.
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
but it doesn't have flying! and being in blue is really limiting too, since the copter is best in white or red
Ben
个月 前
this! Caleb definitely neglected the backside in his card analysis
Jordan Rutledge
个月 前
ya actually stealing lands off the top of opp's deck is fairly strong
Conor Wasson
个月 前
It definitely seems like it's in for the vehicle half and to synergize with looter scooter
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wh... why is there a pineapple in the title?
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
It creates more intrigue than a plain text title. For example this thread, haha
Mimic_SSB
个月 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG LOL (is it an algorithm thing? I'm mystified lmao)
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
Hey who put that pineapple in the title!
cloaking111
个月 前
CNboth algorithm?
Laurent Eriksen
个月 前
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Have you tried drafting an "ideal" deck based off of that spreadsheet with all your winrates on the cards and stuff? Given that its draft its most likely not possible but you could probably get close.
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
that would be 5 color, which I do draft a decent amount of the time
Oscar Putz
个月 前
@Caleb Gannon MTG I guess you could also do lowest winrate, but that might not be fun to draft or play.
Caleb Gannon MTG
个月 前
yeah it would be mono white
Iname Come Unico
个月 前
Wouldn't it be just mone white?
I've seen how many trophies you had yesterday and am therefore excited to see what the decks and games are like.
1 minute ago, here I am!
16 seconds ago....bye bye socratic seminar here comes Caleb cube